Decision to be made on firearm policies
New group sets sights on changing UND's campus gun
Theresa Rerick
Issue date: 4/25/08 Section: News
"We are talking about a school, and obviously we are talking about 18-year-olds and older, but you don't take guns to other schools," he said. "There are always people who bring their guns for sporting events such as hunting, but there is a world of difference between shooting at a target or an animal than from shooting a human being."
Czapiewski also said that in the case of a school shooting, allowing weapons on campus would only cause more danger than safety.
"Should we have a shooting on campus, we'd have to remove the shooter and we wouldn't know who the shooter is when a number of students are carrying weapons," he said. "This would result in a high probability of an innocent person being shot by law enforcement."
The department is working with the university to establish a UND gun policy that does not allow students to keep their guns with them in on-campus apartments. Baker said that this policy infringes on the rights of students.
"Chances are, going to a university, you are an adult. On-campus apartments are generally housing for people who are older and old enough to know how to properly handle a gun, especially in a hunting community such as ours," she said.
Baker said she was also distressed by the lack of consideration administration had for the students' voice. "When the housing office took a survey on all campus resident apartments asking if they wanted to change the weapon policy to exclude weapons in the apartments, including bows, mace, knives that are five inches or longer, and water guns, the results showed that 65.8 percent of residents said they wanted no such change," she said.
Plautz echoed Baker's concerns over the infringement on personal rights. "I feel that the university is putting their own policy in front of the students and completely ignoring what the students' wishes are."
Czapiewski also said that in the case of a school shooting, allowing weapons on campus would only cause more danger than safety.
"Should we have a shooting on campus, we'd have to remove the shooter and we wouldn't know who the shooter is when a number of students are carrying weapons," he said. "This would result in a high probability of an innocent person being shot by law enforcement."
The department is working with the university to establish a UND gun policy that does not allow students to keep their guns with them in on-campus apartments. Baker said that this policy infringes on the rights of students.
"Chances are, going to a university, you are an adult. On-campus apartments are generally housing for people who are older and old enough to know how to properly handle a gun, especially in a hunting community such as ours," she said.
Baker said she was also distressed by the lack of consideration administration had for the students' voice. "When the housing office took a survey on all campus resident apartments asking if they wanted to change the weapon policy to exclude weapons in the apartments, including bows, mace, knives that are five inches or longer, and water guns, the results showed that 65.8 percent of residents said they wanted no such change," she said.
Plautz echoed Baker's concerns over the infringement on personal rights. "I feel that the university is putting their own policy in front of the students and completely ignoring what the students' wishes are."
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anonymous
posted 4/25/08 @ 4:40 PM CST
Mr. Czapiewski,
you are a disgusting excuse for a police officer.
Sincerely,
Anonymous
Greg
posted 4/25/08 @ 6:22 PM CST
I didn't know the UND Police force was so trigger-happy that they would shoot someone handling a weapon without telling them to put it down first. Our campus police force is pretty gung-ho, eh?
Tim Rodenberger
posted 4/26/08 @ 1:09 AM CST
I just got a letter in my mail, postmarked April 24th, stating the ban has already been decided. What is irritating is Troy Noelder's attempt to say they took consideration from the Apartment Community Council and Residents when the ACC voted to keep the status quo and 2/3rds of the residents were fine with it. (Continued…)
Pete C.
posted 4/26/08 @ 7:26 AM CST
And months after the VA tech tragedy, the administrators
of the school in IL sat smugly behind their desks,
content because they had implemented all this great
community alert technology and emergency response
training. (Continued…)
GunShowOnTheNet
posted 4/26/08 @ 4:01 PM CST
"[W]hereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them; nor does it follow from this, that all promiscuously must go into actual service on every occasion. (Continued…)
Wendy Weinbaum
posted 4/26/08 @ 5:07 PM CST
I 100% support the new concealed carry bill allowing trained students to carry guns As a Jewess in the US, I would like to remind everyone that criminals are stopped by FIREARMS, not by talk. (Continued…)
Noah Chelliah
posted 9/17/08 @ 1:19 PM CST
"there are legitimate reasons for the university's weapon policies, which include the prohibition of weapons in residence halls, on any property of the university and in a vehicle parked on campus. (Continued…)
Dave
posted 9/19/08 @ 12:07 AM CST
"there are legitimate reasons for the university's weapon policies, which include the prohibition of weapons in residence halls, on any property of the university and in a vehicle parked on campus. (Continued…)
Sam
posted 9/21/08 @ 11:46 AM CST
You're all right - MORE guns are the answer....apparently some of us have watched too many fictitious shoot-outs at the OK Corral.
Sam
posted 9/21/08 @ 6:20 PM CST
Greg - I would suggest you too research facts....the U.S. has among the highest rates of gun-related crime in the world. Again, adding more guns to the equation does not make sense. (Continued…)
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